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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 05:57:00 -
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Your right murder.. But for me and i'm guessing alot of others we'll be using the Rohk as a blaster boat.. That uber passive tank and huge optimal for blasters makes it pwn so very hard in small gang fights..  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 06:22:00 -
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Yeah the Rohk pwns at all roles with t1 guns.. It's Great being Caldari eh?  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 06:43:00 -
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Forum fodder? KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 06:54:00 -
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From what i've seen so far t2 missiles of all sorts got a damage nerf but the penaltys were greatly reduced.. Now I can fit a missile spammer with all t2 and not watch my cap go to zero in seconds or my max speed go to 2ms..  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 07:18:00 -
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Why? How long till Caldari BS 4 and the new king of blasters? Change is GOOD..  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 07:23:00 -
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Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 25/11/2006 07:24:14
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 25/11/2006 07:21:31
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Why? How long till Caldari BS 4 and the new king of blasters? Change is GOOD.. 
Bull**** isn't good though... Get it?
People like you make me wonder...
Yeah I get it but I already have all BS to level 4 so I get to pick and choose the winners..
Sucks to be behind the curve eh?  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 07:35:00 -
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Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 25/11/2006 07:35:35 Xori..
Yeah.. I'm a no skill forum alt but my main is trained for all t1 ships and has excellent skills in all trees but gunnery.. So you can see why im happy for a BS that doenst take t2 large whatever skills to use effectively.. And FFS how long does it take to get to Caldari BS 4 anyways? If your already have great skills in one area train for another.. So far the Rohk is the Bs for the masses and even more uber if you are Caldari rail/blaster specialized..
Oh wait most Caldari are missile specialized.. 
So if you already have leet rail/blaster skills then take a week or so and get into a Rohk.. Belive me you wont regret it..  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 07:43:00 -
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LOL! KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 08:01:00 -
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Is eveyone forgetting the penalty nerfs for t2 ammo too? For fleet action it doesnt really matter what ammo you use as whatever is primary goes POP even with all t1 guns and ammo.. So in reality the T2 damage nerf is balanced by the lower penalty for using it.. So you get to realistically use it in small gang now instead of just fleet.. This is not good? KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 08:27:00 -
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So get a Rohk FFS.. If you start now you can be in one in under 2 weeks if you have absolutly no caldari ship skills.. I can understand specializing at first to get to the ship you want but surely most vet players are at a point in thier career that they can train up another races ships? If your Gallente all you need is Cal BS 4 and a minimum of shield skills as you already no doubt have leet hybrid skills.. Trust me.. I was pwning people far more skilled than me on sisi with my little T1 blaster fitted Rohk.. imagine if you already have T2 blaster skills like most gal characters? There will be no need for a leet passive tank as you will turn **** near every bs you get into range of into dust bunnys.. And with the awesome optimal bonus you will be in range with a quickness..
Adapt FFS people..  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 08:32:00 -
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And if you spent a year training for a certain ship and skill set 2 more weeks is such a huge sacrifice to get the new leet BS on the block?
Cripes..  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv THAT IS NOT RIGHT. I don't CARE if I CAN train for the Rokh or NOT! The Tier 3 ship isn't SUPPOSED to be better than Tier 2 or 1 ships... nor is one Tier 3 ship SUPPOSED to be better than any other Tier 3 ship!
WTF? Any tier 3 is supposed to be better than a tier 1 or 2.. Otherwise why even make the distinction.. And as far as the other tier 3 BS are concerned they do just dandy.. Maybe not quite as uber as the Rohk but we will never see complete balance in this game.. Matter of fact as i've did my research on eve-search every expansion has had the new leet kid on the block every time.. Remember when Amarr were leet and all the whining on the forums as a result?  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 08:54:00 -
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Different equates to better in the case of eve ships.. how else would they be different?
Raven: Awesome fire support BS with the always hit torps..
Scorp: Awesome EW support BS with the always hit jamming..
Rohk: Awesome Primary DPS dealer for long/short range..
Thats pretty balanced I'd say.. KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 25/11/2006 09:14:10 LOl and now we get to the meat of the thread!
Flaming!
But seriously do torps not always hit? Do jammers on scorps not always work? They do on sisi so im assuming they will do the same on tranq on the 28th.. 
edit.. Face it guys.. things have changed.. Regardless of whether its for the good or bad its simply a matter of opinion and we all know what opinions are like?  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 09:17:00 -
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Guess its this.. your arguing from a specialist point of view and im arguing from a generalists point of view..
Your mad cause your specialist skills dont pwn as hard as you think they shouild and my general skills are happy with all the AWESOME choices in ships I have now..
Is it that hard to understand? KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 25/11/2006 09:33:22
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Guess its this.. your arguing from a specialist point of view and im arguing from a generalists point of view..
Your mad cause your specialist skills dont pwn as hard as you think they should and my general skills are happy with all the AWESOME choices in ships I have now..
Is it that hard to understand?
Yeah, you're arguing that the lowest common denominator should win out. I get it. Whaaaatever.
Why not? your leet.. you will pwn nearly everyone you cross no matter if they are in a Rohk or not.. Fleet wise the Rohk is just fine.. BlasterRohk might be a bit unfair for small gang but so what? Nos it.. problem solved.. and yeah noone uses nos right? Cripes seems everytime a ship is the slightest bit more uber than another the cries of "Unfair" ring loud and long here.. but is anyone still *****ing about the exodus/coldwar/rmr changes? Of course not as they all adapted and overcame.. Same will happen this time too..  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 10:26:00 -
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Change sucks eh? But i'll get nowhere here as its the narrow view being presented.. Both mine and the others in the relevant thread/s.. so yeah you have a valid point but so do I.. and as its all a matter of opinion its not really in the pipeline for us to agree after all.. But thats what makes eve so AWESOME.. So many differing views and we all get to forum pvp together!
WIN!  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 25/11/2006 11:28:49
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Remove its tanking bonus, for one... And if tier 3 are supposed to be better than tier 2, for ****'s sake, give the hyperion more cpu/grid. The hyp's fittings are PATHETIC!
Thats reasonable but what would you replace it with? If its not a tanking bonus it will be some sort of gun related one and so far by the opinions given another damage bonus would be even worse than the tanking bonus as you would be the damage king by quite a few orders of magnitude then.. If you melt the opposition in seconds then tank is of no concern and trust me as it stands now if you have even a third cap left and are getting nossed your still gonna pwn a 1 vs 1 against any other BS out there with the passive tanked blaster setup.. Maybe make it a shield boost bonus? That way your still using cap for the active tank and will be even more vulnerable nossing? KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.26 11:18:00 -
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bah anohter drunken post
FFS how hard is it to train up caldari bs to 4? you all are gong on like youll never ever ever ever ever get a rohk to fly or are too laxy to train for onw.. yeah so you have 3453453 years of specializing in gallente bs.. those skills dont carry over?!@ FFS a fleet bs is all about t6he weapons not the silly support skills.. you alreasy have large hyberid 5 so just put it on another bs FFS and pwn like the rest of us will on patch day.. Crippty crap i dont see yuall complinging abvout anything at all but stup pid ****.. diversity of skills is what long tern pleyars stength is not spcilazing in only one narrow field.. but bah its all about the attentioon i guess so keep[ spamming the forums with this ultimaltely futile crapppity crap.. tje devs wi;; just giggle some more after readng yet another whine thread of selfish desire to ve the only pwner on the block.. if youd just take a few measly weeks to trian for all races t1 youd not even be heer crying a river to the void..
gah KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.26 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: xh'duality
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus bah anohter drunken post
FFS how hard is it to train up caldari bs to 4? you all are gong on like youll never ever ever ever ever get a rohk to fly or are too laxy to train for onw.. yeah so you have 3453453 years of specializing in gallente bs.. those skills dont carry over?!@ FFS a fleet bs is all about t6he weapons not the silly support skills.. you alreasy have large hyberid 5 so just put it on another bs FFS and pwn like the rest of us will on patch day.. Crippty crap i dont see yuall complinging abvout anything at all but stup pid ****.. diversity of skills is what long tern pleyars stength is not spcilazing in only one narrow field.. but bah its all about the attentioon i guess so keep[ spamming the forums with this ultimaltely futile crapppity crap.. tje devs wi;; just giggle some more after readng yet another whine thread of selfish desire to ve the only pwner on the block.. if youd just take a few measly weeks to trian for all races t1 youd not even be heer crying a river to the void..
gah
finaly some1 who see's it my way 
DAMM STRAIT but i really need to pass out.. KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.26 11:37:00 -
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yea? and you think if the rok is really that unbalacned it wont get nerfed in the near future? puhleeeeeeeaaaaaaaassseee
quit fukin replying so i can pass out.. h8ters all of you  KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.26 11:52:00 -
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i specialized in my first 6 months then i ran out of things to specialize so i cross trained.. wow what a concept.. KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.26 11:59:00 -
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wel i was in a curse with all the relvant support skill at 6ish months and decided to go for them all.. about the only tree i dont have all level 4 in is gunnerys and thats all level 3s with a few 4s.. specializing is not about capping off every level 5 in your tree as they dont really give you that much benefit over level 4 but yeah maybe a rare few do but not really the majority so at 6 months you can go to another race KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.27 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus bah anohter drunken post
FFS how hard is it to train up caldari bs to 4? you all are gong on like youll never ever ever ever ever get a rohk to fly or are too laxy to train for onw.. yeah so you have 3453453 years of specializing in gallente bs.. those skills dont carry over?!@ FFS a fleet bs is all about t6he weapons not the silly support skills.. you alreasy have large hyberid 5 so just put it on another bs FFS and pwn like the rest of us will on patch day.. Crippty crap i dont see yuall complinging abvout anything at all but stup pid ****.. diversity of skills is what long tern pleyars stength is not spcilazing in only one narrow field.. but bah its all about the attentioon i guess so keep[ spamming the forums with this ultimaltely futile crapppity crap.. tje devs wi;; just giggle some more after readng yet another whine thread of selfish desire to ve the only pwner on the block.. if youd just take a few measly weeks to trian for all races t1 youd not even be heer crying a river to the void..
gah
LMAO! I don't even remember posting this.. Now thats a true bender.. KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |
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